Tuesday, March 11, 2014

Can any (natural) gas stove be modified to run on propane?




oikos


Or does it require a specific model to burn propane?
Thanks, guys. It's a pleasure to get answers from people who seem to know what they are talking about, even if you don't agree on everything.

If we ever move, my wife wants another self-cleaning oven and hasn't seen any propane stoves with this feature.



Answer
To do so, you MUST get a conversion kit from the original manufacturer. They will give you a new rating plate which is their proof that this appliance is "certified" for use with that fuel. If you "Mcgyver" the appliance and try and convert it by changing orifices etc yourself, you will void the manufacturer's warranty. Also, the manufacturer will take no responsibility if this appliance hurts anyone or property is damaged because you have "altered" the appliance. Insurance companies will deny claims for the same reason.

If the original manufacturer does not provide a conversion kit it can't be legally converted.

If by "stove" you are referring to a kitchen cooking appliance and not a free-standing fireplace, they are often what we call "dual-plated". The rating plate will show approval for both fuels. If this is the case it may be possible for a properly licenced technician to make adjustments to the appliance without replacing any parts to work properly with the alternate fuel. It depends on the unit. I would consult the manufacturer's certified operating instructions. They often cover this topic.

PS: The days of drilling out orifices are long gone guys. Anyway, natural gas has LESS btu's per volume so to convert from NG to propane you need smaller orifices not larger ones!

Hope this helps!

Edit: Personally I like the hybrid stoves that use propane ( or NG ) for the top burners but have an electric oven. You get the nice fast and hot top burners and the electric oven maintains a more even temperature than the gas ones. It's not as critical for cooking, but for baking that can be very important. Also you can get the self cleaning feature that way!

We no longer drill out orifices purely for liablility sake. Again, if that appliance hurts anyone or damages property it will be critiqued by fire and safety authorities as well as the authority having jurisdiction over the local gas codes. If that orifice is marked as a #32 it better be #32 size or you will have a problem! That is why drilling orifices has gone the way of the Do-Do bird. Years ago we could alter appliances, drill orifices and all kinds of things. But we don't dare do it anymore. Most propane and natural gas installation codes strictly forbid it now.

Metals Class Sheet Metal Projects?




Pedro


I need an idea for a sheet metal project to do at my school.
I've already done a toolbox and a dustpan. Any ideas you got please i need 'em. If you got one please send the layout with it please. Thank You.



Answer
Hi:

Try the following books for ideas :

Sheet Metal Fabrication Basics
by Timothy Remus


101 Metal Projects for the Novice Blacksmith: A how-to Shop Manual for Beginners
by Ken Scharabok

Projects idea from me :


1) A metal/wire bender

2) a Hammer or Judge mallet

3) a Steam engine

4) a metal lathe

5) a wood lathe

6) a One lug engine

7) a trip hammer

8) a vice

9) a mechanical clock

10) a electric generator or motor

11) a forge or kiln

12) a heat treat oven

13 ) a metal wood plane

14 ) a scale model steam tractor or make it full size- really score some points for that

15. a Scale model of a working steam engine train

16) a Sawmill or bandmill

17) a screwdriver or wood chisel set

18) a bit and brace drill with home made drill bits.

19 ) a steam organ

20 ) a center punch

21) A nail punch

22) a tesla engine

23) A drill press made out of pipe fittings

24) A odemeter or mechanical counter

25) A pluse jet

26 ) a super simple CNC Machine

27) A go Cart

28) A torch or parts carrier- all metal contruction expect the wheels

29) Sheet metal Brake

30) A tap & die set

31) A slip roll

32) A 5 or 6 cylinder radial engine ( gas or Steam Powered)

33) A electro-dischage Machine ( EDM)

34) a Windmill

35 ) a small blast furance for melting aluminum,brass,bronze..ect

36) English wheel

37) A Tool box

38) A dust pan

39 ) A watch maker lathe

40) a workbench

41 ) sheet metal hole maker

42) A mailbox or holder

43) a Dust pan

44) a Cup holder

45) a whistle ( the type you blow into)

46) a Chow Chief( type you see in western movies to call the cowboys to breakfast, lunch,dinner) Triangle

47) A grill for cooking food ( like steaks)

48) a Pitcher

49) a cuttery set

50) bracelets, necklaces,ear rings - great for moms and sisters

51) Candlabras, fireplace gates, front gates, candle stick Candle holder

52) Spoon rest, Cooking rack, metal plates, knife,fork & spoon, coffee pot, coffee cup, canteen, Coffee mug rack Plate holder, caddy

53) Gun holder, fishing holder, tree stand,gun rack, fishing takle box

54) Lamp, shelf for knicknacks

55) a Lunch tray along with a knife,fork, and spoon ( made from the same material)

56) A windmill

57) A sheet metal/ pop can airplane.( with propeller) that you hang and the propeller spins

58) a Cookie, Flour,Sugar,Coffee and Tea can container with lids

59) cookie cutters, Cake pan, skillet, guard railing glamp holders

that all I can think of for right now.




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