Saturday, May 24, 2014

Central Heat and electric bill?




gabyrig


I have central heat/air in my condo. I find that we are paying way more money than when I lived in a force air or steam/radiant heat apartment. The bill went from $50 to $122 this january. The heat bill also went for $90 to $222. I have a honeywell thermostat that only allows for settings of 10 to 30 minutes of heating at a time. Nothing continuous. Is there a way I can save on electric and heating bill? I think I need a solution with the heating system. Maybe if it were going continuously rather than going and stopping ever 10-30 minutes, it would use less energy.
Please help!



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My buddy swears by those high efficiency electric fireplaces. He says their cheaper than gas heat.

What is more cost efficient gas or electric fireplaces?




MRS C B





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Whoa, Whoa, whoa! Lets put some perspective to this answer shall we before we all jump on a bandwagon.

Your most efficient gas fireplace appliance will be a direct vent gas fireplace. they vent directly through the outside wall so it may or may not work with your current fireplace location. DO NOT go with gas logs for heat. vented gas logs are energy and fuel wasters and vent free gas logs effect your indoor air quality. Direct vent is the only way to go if efficiency is your key factor.

On electric...if you plugged your flue with a chimney balloon to prevent cold air infiltration and then put in a electric fireplace insert this is not a bad option. the electric inserts do a decent job putting out heat for relatively little KWH consumption.

Overall the direct vent will give you more heat efficiency for your dollar in use but it is going to be a couple thousand to have it put in. the electric fireplace option is maybe a couple of hundred and is a DIY project.




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Electric Fireplace vs Central Heating - Cost?




TJ


This winter is a insane- this, we can all agree on. I am fortunate enough to live in Texas, so I can't complain a whole lot when comparing to other states (stay warm out there, everybody!)

That said, I'm wanting to save money on my utility bills, will still keeping warm.

I've been eyeballing some electric fireplaces lately. Since I live in an apartment and don't have a real one, this would seem like an interesting idea.

Now, I do have central A/C and heating. Summer months are a money funnel, but I deal with it and let that sucker run- it gets hot and humid in Texas. I've been reading a lot of reviews and info on how electric fireplaces can cut costs greatly, so I was wondering what the general idea would be on this concept.


Would it be more cost-effective to run an electric fireplace over central heating? I guess in the same respect, a space-heater would do the same in general, but an electric fireplace has more visual appeal IMO.



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If your central heating is resistive heat, then the fireplace is likely to give you nearly the same efficiency. If your central heat is gas or heat-pump, then central heat is going to be many times more efficient.

That being said, if you can turn down your central heat significantly and you use your fireplace to heat a small area, it could potentially save you a little. I can't imagine you would see savings in an apartment unless it is an exceedingly large apartment.

Electric Fireplace?




Andy D


I live in an apartment, with electric baseboard heat. I bought an electric fireplace, with hopes that it would lower my electric bill a little, and look nice at the same time. It doesn't seem to heat very well. Should I return it and get something different? Maybe a space heater with a bit more powerful of a fan? I'm just looking for something to supplement the electric baseboard, because it can be VERY expensive to run.

Thanks!



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Electric fireplaces are basically for looks. And a space heater can be very dangerous if knocked over or can get really hot. If you live in the middle of the apartments... meaning not on a corner unit and not on the top floor I wouldn't worry about heating. You are going to get a lot of heat from the other apartments. I would just buy some extra blankets and get some sweats. When I have lived in apartments and now I live in a town home in the center the heating has never been an issue. I have had to many times have the patio door open to get rid of the excess heat. And I live in Minnesota!




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Friday, May 23, 2014

Does electric heaters use more electricity ?




Romeo


I have three questions regarding electric heaters.

1 - Is there a difference between electric heater and radiant heater ?

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2 - Are electric/radiant heaters quieter than fan-heaters ?

3 - Does electric/radiant heaters use more electricity than fan-heaters and air-conditioner ?
(if so, how much more do they use ? Would it be much more expensive or a little bit more expensive ?)

Thank you.



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Short answer: nearly all "room size" plug-in electric heaters here in the US consume 1500 watts @ 110 volts. Built-in electric heat (such as baseboard or in-wall) as well as a electric central heat are 220 volt and more economical to operate (typically rated at 5000, 10000 or more watts).


Tedious detail: "radiant" heaters supposedly radiate their heat to warm objects in the room rather than heating the air . . . . . while a "convection" type heats the air in the room. Most convection types are fan forced (central hot-air heating is convection heat . . . . . central hot-water heating is radiant heat).

Radiant heat can be a steadier heat - while convection heat can be spotty (ie you feel warmer when it is running with a fan on/cooler when off) ........... but fan boosted heat can warm a room faster than a radiator.

A plug-in electric space heater can be either pure radiant heat (you're looking at the heating element which usually has a reflector behind it to "radiate" the heat in the right direction) . . . . .or it can be fan-boosted convection type . . . . . and most often a combination.

Old plug-in heaters of the 30s & 40s were usually 100% radiant and used metal heating coils, like a light bulb or stove burner. Many newer ones use quartz tubes instead of metal coils - that appears to be what is shown in both of your photos. Quartz tubes have an advantage of heating-up quickly - - so quickly that they can actually "pulse" on-and-off producing a uniform heat while using less electricity. The downside is that the quartz tubes burn-out and need replacing from time-to-time. The popular "Edenpure" type heaters are really quartz tube heaters enclosed in a cabinet - the quartz tubes in the Edenpure cycle on-and-off, but radiate their heat to a copper plate which releases it in a uniform flow.

If you have access to Consumer Reports or their Annual Buying Guide: CR periodically tests space heaters. They generally don't think that the "Edenpure" or "Amish Fireplace" style heaters are worth the expense. They eliminated some makes & models from consideration for safety reasons. We bought the "low profile" unit made by Honeywell that they've recommended for a couple years: it uses an electric strip heating element and can be used with-or-without the enclosed fan - the idea is to use the fan to quickly heat a cold room, then use without fan for a quiet, uniform heat. We're very satisfied.


You mentioned an air-conditioner - - - - a "heat pump" is just a reversible air-conditioner. Very convenient source of heat - if you are in a temperate climate, but not very efficient in a cold climate where winter temps stay below about 45 degrees F . . . . in fact, most heat-pump installations have electric resistance heat as a back-up.

what electric, wall mounted fireplace has the most realistic fire?




Passionate





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A very popular wall mounted electric fire is the Be Modern Orlando:

http://www.hotprice.co.uk/2118/5359/products/be-modern-orlando-wall-mounted-electric-fire---flat-glass.html

The Be Modern Orlando is available with a curved, black glass fascia or a flat glass fascia. It features LED lighting which have a selection of colours to represent a real fire.

Alternatively, have you seen the new LCD electric fires? These feature a real image of a fire (like a movie) and some offer a selection of scenes and even sound!

Dimplex make 2 electric fires with the LCD effect:

http://www.hotprice.co.uk/2118/3921/products/dimplex-living-art-wall-mounted-lcd-electric-fire---lva191.html

http://www.hotprice.co.uk/2118/4995/products/dimplex-living-art-wall-mounted-mirror-electric-fire----lva192.html

A new manufacturer of electric fires is Celsi Fires. They offer a similar style of electric fires and the flame effect can be seen here:
http://www.bfm-europe.com/index.php?target=steps&task=catstep&brand=10




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If I use propane gas fireplace in my house will it help take some of the load off the electric heat pump.?




kgf74


I think our ac/heating unit is under sized for the house and the compressor is very loud in the winter and seems like it has to work very hard to keep the temp that we want. the unit is a 3.5 tn. the house is 1800 sf of livable space and 1400 sf of basement which is still conditioned. Will using the gas fireplace in the upstairs living room (master bedroom on 1 side other 2 bedrooms on the other side) help heat the house and take some of the load off the heat pump.


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A 3.5 ton heat pump is only going to give you about 50,000 btuh of heating when it's 45 out (considerably less at colder outdoor temps) so trying to heat 3200 Sq ft with it just won't cut it without using the aux. heat as well. Any heat you add to the space with something else is going to help.

A couple questions about gas fireplaces?




Monty


1. Are the unvented ones as safe as vented ones?

2. Can you light them if the electric power has gone out?

3. Are there any other safety concerns I should know about?
Also, do the tops of the vented ones get really hot? If my cat jumped on it, would she burn her paws?



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Unvented gas fireplaces are as safe as any other style but you should use a heating log set which burns extremely efficiently. I've used this style for over 15 yrs. Also you must install a carbon monoxide detector in the room where the fireplace is located to be on the safe side. They can be burned without electric power and we have heated our entire house with them during power outages resulting from ice storms. Unless the top of any heating device is very well insulated it will get very hot when in use, and if your cat were to jump on top it while in use it would be a very warm pussy.




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Can an electric fireplace help lower my electric bill?




shana


I live in colorado and just moved into a house with electric heaters along the bases of all the walls. I can tell just by looking at the heaters that they are old and I am assuming that they are not very energy efficient because of their age. I read that an electric fireplace cost roughly 8 cents an hour to use. My electric bill has been over 200.00 for the past 2 months now and I have done everything I can to lower it. The heaters are the only thing really that are out of my control and I am pretty sure they are the reason my bills have been so high. Any help would be great.
All of the windows are brand new and I am doing the zone heating right now. Only using the heaters if I am in the room. No one thinks that the age of the heaters could be affecting the amount of electricity they are using? Surely something that is 20 or 30 years newer would be more efficient?



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An electric heater is an electric heater, you get so many B.T.U.'S per Kilowatt hour. Doesn't matter if it's a baseboard or portable. Jesus, if it's been costing you 200/mth and it isn't even cold yet, you better tie your bootlaces and get ready for the Dec. Jan. Feb bills. They are going to be at LEAST twice as much as you have been paying so far. Only thing I can think is that it's an old house without a lick of insulation in it. I'd say dress warmly and use a portable heater or fireplace in front of you and turn the heat down in the rest of the house.

**If you are using 200.00/mth right now, that means you are using 1538.46 kilowatt hours with Colorados price of . 13/kw. At that price, you should be able to run 11-1500 watt heaters, 24 hours a day for a month. I realize you are not only using it for heat but that's the kind of power you can use for that much money. SOMETHING is wrong and it's not that your heaters are old. (makes no difference.) I'd suggest you shut down your main breaker and then go outside and see if your meter is still running. If it is, one of your neighbors is stealing power from you or there's a drain that shouldn't be there. Your bill is uncharacteristically high for Colorado at this time of the year but the power is going somewhere....

how do electric fireplaces work?




beach answ


would like to put an electric fireplace in my house, but don't know anything about them.

how do they work? does it just plug in? does it give off heat? use wood? expensive to operate? expensive to purchase? easily installed?



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Electric fireplaces are really just decorative. a 110 unit will produce about 4,500 BTU worth of heat, a 220 will produce about 9,500. Not very much either way. They are VERY easily installed, plug it in and you're done, and fairly inexpensive to buy $300-$1500. A lot of the cost depends on the mantel you choose. They basically just use lights and mirrors to give the "flame" effect, but they're pretty cute.




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Thursday, May 22, 2014

What is the most energy effecient portable heating fan?




me


I want one that heats well and will lower my energy bill


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nergy efficient home heating - "Space Heater Reviews" by Sam Streubel

The portable space heaters reviewed in this article are electric radiant or convection space heaters, cost less than $100, and offer a maximum heat output of 1500 watts.

All of the following space heater suggestions are rated an average minimum of 4 out of 5 stars by consumer reviewers.

Radiant heaters work like the sun by warming people and objects. Radiant heaters without fans are not designed to heat an entire room, but excel at providing instant heat for one or two people.

Two examples of radiant heaters without fans are radiant heat panels and parabolic heaters.

Radiant heat panels are constructed with the heating element embedded in the panel. By virtue of their simplicity, they are safe, reliable and maintenance free.

The Presto Parabolic Heat Dish is a cost effective choice for workshops or garages when you want to heat just you and not the entire building.

The Cozy Legs radiant heat panel, with only 100 watts of heat output is by no means a whole room heater, but performs admirably when installed under a desk or hung on the wall to warm a bird cage.

The next four categories of radiant heaters are equipped with fans to provide whole room heat.
Quartz Infrared Heaters Quartz infrared heaters can cost as little as $50, or as much as $450 for the SunTwin or EdenPure heaters. The SunTwin brand features copper heat exchangers for consistent, non drying heat; a child and pet friendly cool to the touch exterior, fan assisted heat for larger spaces, and a lifetime washable filter.

The less expensive Marvin 1500 watt quartz heater uses replaceable quartz tubes in front of a reflector and a fan to project whole room heat. Quartz heating elements reduce positive ions in the air and consume very little oxygen. Reviews say this heater works extremely well. The security locked grill swings out for easy quartz tube replacement. Replacement tubes are readily available for $9.99 each.
Ceramic Heaters Ceramic heaters come in a wide variety of models: fixed, tower, oscillating and pedestal. One of the most popular and inexpensive of these is the Honeywell HZ-315. Weighing in at only 3.3 pounds, it's the mighty mite of space heaters capable of quickly heating small to mid-sized rooms.

A specialized version of the ceramic heater is the remote controlled Soleus Air MS-20A. The cool to the touch exterior, even heat, and wall mounting feature make it a favorite for nurseries.
Electric Fireplaces What are they? Expensive space heaters or a piece of furniture that also keeps you warm? Definitely a piece of furniture. If you went crazy and spent $2200 on an electric fireplace (they're out there), it still won't heat your room any better than the $299 model.
Electric Stoves Similar to the electric fireplace, an electric stove is a radiant, fan assisted space heater installed in a decorative housing. The most popular model by far with consumers is the Dimplex CS3311 compact electric stove.

You can continue to read the reviews for convection heaters, micathermic heaters and oil filled radiators at Sam's Guide to Small Heaters.

how effecient per the price, are electric fireplaces? and how well do they heat?




Randall M





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VERY EFFICIENT AND HEATS GREAT!!!

My friend has one and it looks sooo real! It also heats up her living room in no time.

The flame of an electric fireplace uses slightly under 300 Watts of power. With an average electricity rate, the unit operates for a remarkable 2 cents an hour providing all the warmth, ambiance and romance of a fireplace. When you choose to activate the heat feature, the total cost to operate the flame and heater is approximately 7 cents an hour.

The cost of operating may vary slightly among different models. However, since the operation cost of a gas fireplace runs around 17 cents an hour, an electric fireplace proves to be extremely cost-effective and a great value for your money.

These fireplaces are energy efficient because the heat is not going out the chimney of your home. And they can give you instant heat. Depending on the size of your home you may want to first check out these fireplaces and read how many square feet they will heat in your home. Each home will be different depending on the size of the home and how large of a area you are wanting to heat.

Electric fireplaces are getting to be more and more popular these days. You can put them anywhere in your house and they are very easy to install in your home. Electric Fireplaces are a great way to add a warm feeling to your room. They warm up your room nicely and have the look of a real wood fireplace.

They can be put a in any room of your house because they don't need a chimney for them to work. All you need is a close electrical outlet in the room where you are going to place your fireplace. They are very convenient and can be installed in a matter of minutes. People love these types of fireplaces because there is nothing for them to clean up because there is no wood involved. If you are going to decorate or remodel your home this would be a great touch in any room of your house. They are great looking and serve a good purpose in your home.

A electric fireplace is operated just like a electric heater. Except along with the heat that it can put out it also has a illuminated look to it that can make it look like it has real embers and flames burning just like a wood fireplace would look. And some of these fireplaces come with fan forced heat and a thermostat. They come in different looking cabinets and different colors to choose from. And if you want you can buy a electric fireplace insert to use in the existing fireplace in your home. So you have different options when buying a electric fireplace. Some of these fireplaces will also allow you to just turn the flames on without turning the heat on if you prefer. This is a very nice feature. If you just want to sit back and watch your fireplace without having the heat.




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Tuesday, May 20, 2014

Wiring an electric Fireplace for 240v.?




Renovater


After wiring my cct brkr for 240v I had to have a repairman come in to see why my fireplace did not produce heat. He found that with the 4 wire connection, recommended, I was getting 117v from red to white and 117v from black to white. The problem being is that I also only read 117 from black to red, where it was expected to read 230-240v. Checked the wiring for my dryer which is also 240v, 4 wire and it did read 240v from black to red. Why do I only get 117 when I should be getting 240v?
Thanks everyone. I have already checked all connections. Cct breaker was pretty straightforward. I have the red and black on the single throw, double pole cct brkr. White goes to the neutral bar, bare to the ground bar. Checked at cct breaker, 117 at each from cct brkr from black to white and red to white and both read 117v. Between the red and black it read 0v. I double checked the dryer cct brkr and it read over on my 200v scale leading me to believe it was reading 240v.

It all seems very straight forward but I am not getting the expected values. Connections have been secured. Cct brkr is new and should not pose a problem because it gives me my 117 from each pole. Why would I get 0v when the dryer reads 240v? Is that the only difference between the cct brkrs is the dpst switch? What can I look for next?



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Justwondering and Duncan are right. If you are getting 117V to ground on both legs and 0V difference between them, both breakers are on the same side of the electric service. In a residential single phase service, there are two wires that come out of the transformer from the electric company plus a common ground. Each of those two wires come out of the transformer 180 degrees from the other on the sine curve that alternating current can be represented with. Inside of your electric panel, you'll see a metallic buss bar that the circuit breakers are clipped or bolted to. If you look closely (don't EVER touch this with your body or anything that conducts electricity), you'll see that there are in fact two buss bars. One of them is connected to incoming line 1 by a lug connected to the bar and the other is connected to incoming line 2. The problem that you're having is that both the black wire and the red wire from your fireplace are connected to the same incoming line. This is a common do-it-yourselfer mistake and is easily fixed.

First... are there any open spaces for breakers in your electric panel? If there are, all you have to do is buy a 2 pole circuit breaker of the same type as the original breakers that came with the house. Circuit breaker types are indicated by 2 or 3 letters marked on the circuit breaker. If this is a fairly new house, it will probably be a MP-T, QP, QO, or HOM type breaker. A 2 pole circuit breaker is completely different from a tandem circuit breaker. While they both have two separate handles, tandem circuit breakers are usually not connected at the handle and usually feed both circuits from the same incoming line on the electric meter. 2 pole circuit breakers, on the other hand, are connected so that they both get turned on and off at the same time. They also connect each individual handle to a different incoming line on the electric meter. Unless your electric panel is at least 40 years old and one of a few rare types, a 2 pole circuit breaker should be twice as wide as a regular single pole circuit breaker.

Now... if you don't have any open spaces for breakers in your electric panel, you'll have to put in some tandem breakers. Look at the two circuit breakers directly above the one that you installed for your fireplace. Hopefully, they're single pole circuit breakers that say 15 or 20 on them. Go to the store and buy either a 15/15, 15/20, or 20/20 tandem circuit breaker of the correct type. Connect the two circuits that you looked at earlier to the tandem breaker next to the appropriate rating. Install the tandem breaker into the space occupied by the top breaker of the two that you're working on and remove the bottom breaker that is now not connected to anything. BE VERY CAREFUL WHILE YOU ARE INSTALLING BREAKERS TO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING METAL WITH ANY PART OF YOUR BODY. Keep your fingers only on the plastic part of the circuit breaker and don't let your fingers or any rings or jewelry touch any metal part of the electric panel. You will now have an available open space and can proceed as described above. As always, do not attempt anything that you feel you are not qualified to safely do. An electrician or qualified handyman shouldn't cost more than about $150 to fix this problem for you, so call one if you're not sure.

Is a electric fireplace system better than using gas?




Amanda B





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electric fireplaces are cleaner and for the most part safer than any fuel burning type. The "flames and logs" look pretty much the same. I just purchased an electric fireplace complete with a mahogany mantel. Its gorgeous!! and if you really just want the effect without all the hassles of installing gas lines and enlisting the services of plumbers and heating technicians, electric is a simpler choice.




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Sunday, May 18, 2014

gas or electric fireplace?




jonass21


I have a 224 sqft room that has an old in wall gas heater. I want to tear out the old in wall heater and put in a fireplace, should I go electric or gas? Which is cheaper to run? Would electric add as much value to the home as gas?


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Electric fireplaces are strictly for looks or for adding to spaces where there simply is no means of installing a fireplace or the cost to do so is prohibitive. They produce about as much heat as a hair dryer and the flame effect looks very unrealistic.

A gas fireplace can heat the entire room...along with a good portion of the house, depending on the type of fireplace you choose and the efficiency. Gas fireplaces come in 4 different types:

1) Natural Vent (least efficient)
2) Direct Vent (very efficient)
3) Ventless or Vent-Free (super efficient...but with drawbacks)
4) Wood Burning Fireplace with a Gas Log Installed (Vented of Ventless gas logs)

An electric fireplace will add little or no value to the home. The above 4 types of fireplaces will add value to the home. A wood burning fireplace with a gas log added to it will add the most value to the home because it allows a potential buyer to remove the gas logs and burn real wood if they so choose. A vented gas log installed in a wood burning fireplace will give you the most realistic looking fire but produces the least amount of heat. A ventless gas log installed in the same wood burning fireplace will be less realistic but will provide the most heat.

There is a significant expense involved in installing a fireplace. Ventless gas fireplaces are the least expensive to install since they do not have a chimney or vent. A direct vent gas fireplace is next as far as installation expense if it can be installed on an outside wall because the vent can come directly out the back of the fireplace and go through the wall with a termination cap just outside (no vertical chimney). Natural Vent gas fireplaces and Wood Burning fireplaces both require a chimney or vent that goes vertically through the roof, so they are more expensive to install. There are huge differences in the prices of each fireplace itself in addition to the cost of installation. For example, a wood burning fireplace and chimney pipe will cost substantially less than a direct vent gas fireplace, but the installation cost will make the overall cost substantially more for a wood burning unit.

I would suggest Googling the above fireplace terms and doing some research. Then go visit a local fireplace shop...they should be able to explain the differences between all of the above options including an electric fireplace.

What is more cost efficient gas or electric fireplaces?




MRS C B





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Whoa, Whoa, whoa! Lets put some perspective to this answer shall we before we all jump on a bandwagon.

Your most efficient gas fireplace appliance will be a direct vent gas fireplace. they vent directly through the outside wall so it may or may not work with your current fireplace location. DO NOT go with gas logs for heat. vented gas logs are energy and fuel wasters and vent free gas logs effect your indoor air quality. Direct vent is the only way to go if efficiency is your key factor.

On electric...if you plugged your flue with a chimney balloon to prevent cold air infiltration and then put in a electric fireplace insert this is not a bad option. the electric inserts do a decent job putting out heat for relatively little KWH consumption.

Overall the direct vent will give you more heat efficiency for your dollar in use but it is going to be a couple thousand to have it put in. the electric fireplace option is maybe a couple of hundred and is a DIY project.




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220 V electric fireplace INSERTS?




Chasuriya


I'm looking for a place that I can buy an electric fireplace insert. Just the logs and no surrounding frame or mantelpiece. It needs to be 220 V and the logs and flame have to look real. Is there any place where I can order it online or a company that you know of? Thanks.

This is the perfect example of what I am looking for, only it is 120V and I need 220V.

http://www.flametex.net/dimplex/Inserts/dimplex_dfi2309.htm

I only want the log parts, no frame or mantel parts please!!



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I have seen these at Lowes. I hope theres one near you.

Hello, I am wanting a electric fireplace and i waited too long i guess. Home depot and lowes?




nursing101


and stores like that are sold out. Does anyone know any places that sell them year around? I live by Dayton Ohio but any stores would be great. Thank you
Well i could call the electric company but we installed solar panels last year so that is definelty helping with my electric. My panels can run the fireplace. But thank you anyway.



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Google "Dimplex". That's the brand HD sells. Look for local distributors and start calling.




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how do electric fireplaces work?




beach answ


would like to put an electric fireplace in my house, but don't know anything about them.

how do they work? does it just plug in? does it give off heat? use wood? expensive to operate? expensive to purchase? easily installed?



Answer
Electric fireplaces are really just decorative. a 110 unit will produce about 4,500 BTU worth of heat, a 220 will produce about 9,500. Not very much either way. They are VERY easily installed, plug it in and you're done, and fairly inexpensive to buy $300-$1500. A lot of the cost depends on the mantel you choose. They basically just use lights and mirrors to give the "flame" effect, but they're pretty cute.

How was made electric fireplace?




OligarX


I want to know more about electric fireplace, and make myself

What parts in it?
how it was made?
and I need the cheapest manufacturer.



Answer
an electric fireplace is just an electric heater in a package with a (typically opto-mechanical) display to look like a fire.




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