Sunday, November 24, 2013

Major updating or a few new additional circuits?

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Robert


I am thinking of giving my finished basement (~900 sq. ft) a face-lift, including new(additional) overhead lighting and additional electrical outlets. I am curious whether I will need updating on wiring, panel (or even service capacity), or whether I might be able to just add some new circuits to my existing panel. The current panel (1961) has 100 amp service , spaces for 14 single-switch circuits, with seven of them currently in use:
A)20amp: supplying washer/dryer (gas) and electric sump pump which operates simultaneously with washer.
B)20amp: supplying refridg. , gas stove/oven and microwave.
C)15amp: supplying 10 wall outlets (3 in basement) and 4 single bulb overhead lights(1 in basement)
D)30amp: supplying A/C (new as of 2002)
E)20 amp: supplying 4 wall outlets (kitchen)
F)15 amp: supplying gas furnace (1996)
G)15 amp: supplying a wall outlet, garage door opener, and 3 single bulb overhead lights and 2 overhead fan/lights
H)15 amp: supplying 7 wall outlets (2 in basement) and 3 single bulb overhead lights
(No, I didnât wire the house, it came this way)
Currently I make use of the existing basement outlets for a dehumidifier (summertime), entertainment center and modem/router/printer on (C) and (2)electric lamps and electric fireplace on (H). I am looking to add another 4-6 or so wall outlets in the basement( for things like lamps or computers), and 6-10 florescent lighting fixtures (48â, 4 bulb, drop ceiling tile size) which will replace at least a couple of existing overhead lights.
I have only limited wiring/electrical experience, but am trying to get a rough idea of I should expect from an electrician before I call one to the house, i.e. I donât want to be âtakenâ or electrocuted. Any help/advice would be appreciated. Derogatory comments regarding my naiveteâ are welcome as well, just be kind enough to accompany it(them) by some useful/helpful info. Thanks.



Answer
it would be a good time to update your system it has some errors that i see such as: refidg. should have its own 20 amp dedicated circuit nothing else on it,the washer sould have its own while your current pannel could still be used and even the fridge and washer could be seperated and still have two open spaces left over in your pannel but consider the age 1961 thats 48 yrs old most electrical systems are 20-30 year life expectancy and now theres gfci (ground fault circuit interupter) and the recent requirement; arc fault protection in bed rooms that will probaly be required for all rooms eventually.theses are safety systems that protect you from electrocution (gfci) and fires (arc fault) in addition to grounded outlets which your system may or may not currently have.legally at least in maine you can wire your own house. but ask yourself this question: is my familly's safety important enough to me to have it professionally done? hope this helps you

Will my propane fireplace really save me money?




nuttybuddy


I have owned my house for 2 yrs now and never used the fireplace. I want to use it this year but is it worth it and will it really save me money on my gas and electric bill?

The lowest price that I have found to set it up is 242.00 which includes a 48 gallon tank, 48 gallons of gas, installation and and an annual rental fee of 64.00 and there after, 1.79 per gallon when needed

They say that the gas burns 1 gallon ever 3 hrs. If my math is correct, thats about 144 hours of heat ( burning ALL day would be 6 days)... If you have one or know more about them, please shed some light.



Answer
Gas is not that cheap. The cost of propane is close to $3 per gallon. If you have an un-vented (there is no outside air coming into your fireplace) than you will get a LOT of condensation. For every 3 hours of burn time, you will have one gallon of water emitted into your house. I have been using an un-vented gas fireplace for 4 years and just replaced my ceiling from one end of the house to the other. The mold and water that the old ceiling held was unbelievable. With vented gas fireplaces, you take a chance of not getting the correct oxygen and gas mixture. This will lead to CO (carbon monoxide) poisoning.

We will be pulling our gas fireplace out this week and putting in a wood burning stove.




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